They've been negotiating for 15 days, yet efforts to form a Government still remain fruitless.
Talks continued in Auckland with National meeting with New Zealand First on Friday afternoon but as of yet, not with ACT.
Day 15 and here we go again. Christopher Luxon's Crown car pulls up, his security opens his door, he gets out and greets the waiting media.
So how much longer will all this drag on?
"When we're ready we'll come to Wellington but I expect we'll be in Auckland over the weekend," Luxon said.
A few more days yet. Negotiations appear to be really testing the skills of Luxon who's talked a big game in the past.
"I've done a lot of mergers and acquisitions, and I've done a lot of negotiations. It's about getting the chemistry and getting the relationship right," he said the day after the election.
When the chemistry is wrong, it goes wrong.
When Luxon was the boss of Air New Zealand, his acrimonious relationship with Virgin Australia's boss John Borghetti saw him quit Virgin's board and sell Air New Zealand's stake, losing tens of millions of dollars.
"I've done a lot in my business life at Unilever and also at Air New Zealand."
But how many were success stories and how many were failures?
"I'm not going into them specifically."
The coalition possibly proving to be his toughest merger yet, bringing together three polarising leaders, parties, and policies.
"Every party is showing up with their full manifesto and we've gone through it line item by line item."
And there are some interesting policies. For example, New Zealand First wants to divest the supermarket duopoly's distribution arms, and force electricity gen-tailers to split too.
"I'm not getting into any of those details," Luxon said.
Asked if he had good chemistry with Luxon, Winston Peters said: "Look we don't go for all that sort of stuff about chemistry."
It's also Peters' policy to defund the World Economic Forum. But he ignored a question about that on Friday. He also wouldn't say if he would be okay sharing the Deputy Prime Minister role.
ACT leader David Seymour said on Thursday night that discussions about the role were not complete at that time.
Luxon also wouldn't speak about it.
